To have and to hold, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part; how hard can that be? Tune in for a conversation with the Reluctant Therapist, Elizabeth Barrett, and guests Larella Ellsworth and Trish Wilson about the state of their unions and the world of marriage in general. Maybe marital bliss is the wrong goal?