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A Conversation with the Reluctant Therapist

The Art of Mindful Relaxation with Zentangle Founders Rick Roberts & Maria Thomas

By Elizabeth Barrett
Published May 19, 2026 at 3:32 PM PDT
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Tune in for a Conversation with Rick Roberts and Maria Thomas about their personal journey to developing the wildly popular, mind calming and gratitude building Zentangle method. There are no mistakes in this elegant art form, only opportunities to discover more.

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Elizabeth Barrett
Elizabeth Barrett is a wife, mother, licensed marriage-family therapist, educator, eavesdropper, emotion worker, and mental health consultant. She uses all of these skills to address the subjects that we all struggle with in this conversation with the Reluctant Therapist.
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